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Written by hhb in the Happy Bachelors Forum http://happybachelor.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=best&action=display&thread=5012

Bachelors are single precisely because they know what woman is, will be, and has been. A married man is clearly someone who did not know what was going on. People also make the assumption that being married is better than single – there is much to sell to woman in our materialist Anglosphere – so the merchants that be can’t say single is better, lest their sales of useless items go south permanently, thus our merchant culture of matrimony. Marriage has always been an obligation to man, but at least he got a hefty dowry from the woman in the past to compensate him for his troubles.

We all know in the Anglosphere that for men and women the majority of marriages end in divorce. Add the divorced to the never married and the majority are single, and stay that way.

Not-married is the norm for most people today.

Moreover, it is safe to say a relationship that leads to marriage is not a measure of success for a man, although society would have you think otherwise, but then again matriarchal wage slaves are needed to keep it running.

In our present reality, marriage, most of the time, is the first step towards divorce. It has a lousy track record. Statistically, most divorced people marry again (and divorce again.) The majority of first marriages end in divorce. The majority of second marriages end in divorce. The majority of third marriages end in divorce, etc. It seems folks like marriage, but they don’t like who they marry. In other words, if your car was as reliable as marriage, every time you got in it you’d have a better than one in two chance of crashing.

Thus, following reason, one should marry someone you don’t like and make someone miserable who deserves it. As the comedian said, he was going to buy a house and give it away to a woman he hates and skip the entire marriage/divorce part.

That is a fact of life today.

Anyway we cut it, marriage is a failure as it is now employed, which implies the married man is a failure – right out of the gate.

Furthermore, we all know of the study by the marriage counsel of Princeton University reporting that the marriage rate has never been lower. For such a “great” institution, marriage has a lousy track record that is only getting worse – record high divorces and record low proposal rates.

Wishing is wanting it to be better. Reason tells us it is in jeopardy as a social institution.

Single men far and wide are some of the happiest people in the world. They are successful in their endeavors of choice and their accomplishments of them, while the married man is still dreaming of his – which he knows he will never attain – slaves are accustom to dreaming, freemen are accustom to living their dreams out.

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Written by future303 for the most part as a reply to another thread in HBF. Link removed as it will be stated. It’s a clear interpretation of  1 Corinthians 7

Coming from a Christian (me).

This is what the Bible says on the matter: (for the sake of brevity, I will write it in point form. You can read the entire chapter here: link removed )

1 Corinthians 7

– It is good for a man not to marry (we ALL know this)
– Because of immorality each man should have his wife, and vice versa
– NEITHER of them should deny each other (So if you’re horny and your wife isn’t, she is bound to sleep with you out of contract. If the reverse happens, you are bound to sleep with her)
– The Apostle Paul says all of this as good advice, not as strict commands. He wishes all were like him, with no sex drive.
– However if you can’t go without sex, better to marry than to burn (Keeping in mind that women did not have the power to destroy a man the same as today)
– If you don’t marry, you did good. If you do marry, you haven’t sinned, but you can expect to run into troubles in life.
– If you are single you can devote your free time to God or whatever you wish. If you are married, you’ll spend most of your time figuring out how to please your wife.
– If you must divorce, do so, but DON’T REMARRY
– If you are a widow, Paul recommends you stay that way.

Read the chapter guys, it’s ALL THERE!!

Apostle Paul was the prototype for MGTOW

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Written by toddturner in HBF. MGTOW means Men Going Their Own Way.

We often reflect that MGTOW delivers benefits in monetary terms. I have recently reflected upon another benefit: the second childhood.

I am now 42 and I went through puberty around 30 years ago. When I was 11 or 12, my life was a series of fun hobbies: backyard baseball, building model airplanes, fishing, coin and stamp collecting, etc. Basically nerdy stuff from a female perspective.

Then puberty hit, and I completely reordered my life in the pursuit of women. Whether consciously or unconsciously, all my major decisions were impacted by the question: “Is this going to make me more or less attractive to women?” The specifics aren’t important, but I engaged in numerous behaviors and activities that I didn’t enjoy—simply because they increased my chances of getting laid and winning female approval.

This continued through my twenties, with the attendant stress and wasted time. Women even dominated my leisure activity choices, as they do for many men. To cite one specific example: How many guys really enjoy going out to nightclubs? But most of us have been there because that is where the women are. Women enjoy those vacuous environments because there they can be the center of attention.

I gradually drifted into an MGTOW lifestyle from age 30 forward, after having some relationships with women and coping with their constantly evolving needs and desires. As I’ve shared on here before, my sex drive isn’t exhausted yet, and I do make occasional use of escort services (who are generally cheaper and nicer than their non-commercial counterparts). However, I haven’t been on a “date” since 2001. I don’t go out of my way to offend women, but nor do I worry about impressing them anymore.

What I have discovered is that the long dormant and suppressed 12-year-old is coming out again. By this I don’t mean childish behavior; but the simple enthusiasm for hobbies and interests that are only possible *before* you start to notice women.

I have also rediscovered male friendships–another facet of life before puberty. I’m not talking about anything queer here, but simply the fact that male friendships are often neglected when men hit puberty and the pursuit of women becomes the priority.

I actually have less stress in my life at 42 than I did at 25 or 30. By contrast, my married friends are constantly stressed and financially strapped. In addition, few of them enjoy sex very much with their middle-aged spouses.

Obviously, I wish I could have connected these dots thirty years ago. But better late than never, I suppose.

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Written by edred30 in HBF

True story.

This goes to show that some things the old man says actually sink in to a 15 year old’s skull.

I was sitting around yesterday with my son and two of his pals. They were going about their business as if I wasn’t there.

One of his buddies (we’ll call Aron), as well as my son, have gotten numerous lectures on the nature of the female. A lot came from the wisdom on this site.

The other friend (we’ll call Preston), who isn’t around as much, got a surprise when he brought up a certain topic. The conversation went like this, almost verbatim:

Son: I’m saving up for such and such video game so I’ll have the money when it comes out.

Preston: I don’t have any money for video games. Some guys spend all their money on girls.

Son and Aron (simultaneously): Laughs. You’re spending your money on girls? Dude, you’re retarded. The chicks are laughing at you behind your back saying “he’s a real sucker”. If she was gonna do you, she’d do you. You’re flushing your money down the crapper.

Preston just sat there dumbfounded.

The boys made the old man proud. And maybe P will think twice before wasting his money.

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Written by hhb in HBF

1. Do not fight the system. You will lose and the system is totally fucked up.

2. Never disclosed the essence of your personal beliefs and values to anyone, especially to women. Live in stealth mode. Tell people what they want to hear.

3. Never trust a woman that is nice to you. Remember, that all women want something.

4. Never discuss politics, MRA, economics, religion with anyone. Remember, the public is full of non-thinking idiots that parrots sound bites.

5. Be the best you can be at all times. Learn new skills. Show people that you are the best.

6. Never lose control or patience with women. View all women as you would with the same disgust as you would of homosexual males. Remember, most women are mediocre people at best.

7. Never be afraid to get rid of old friends.

8. Stay in shape with exercise.

9. Keep a positive outlook no matter what happens. Never get mad or have rage against anyone or anything it is not worth it. Most people do not have an impact on your life.

10. Avoid television and pop culture at all costs.

11. Avoid single mothers with kids like the plague.

12. Never do any harm. Let others live in their own misery.

13. Never have sex with women. A woman’s vagina is a cesspool of disease and filth. Today’s independent women have the same amount of STD’s and HIV as the average prostitute.

14. Never get married. The little sex you will receive does not outweigh the aggravation and financial ruin that will eventually happen.

15. Learn to be happy living by yourself. Stay busy.

16. Develop a mission in life.

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